Friday, July 11, 2025

Chapter 19A: "I couldn't believe the language you used at the club."

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Frankie's mother and Dr. Boren find Frankie's cursing to be highly objectionable.

Given the time and the context, would you agree that Frankie's use of language is offensive?

Or has she earned the right to use strong, adult language because of the harrowing experiences she has endured and her visceral reactions to those experiences?

How important is it to avoid cursing? Is cursing merely a personal choice, which some people are comfortable with and others are not?

Can it be considered a mild form of violence, which, in certain contexts, can cause others to feel highly uncomfortable or even threatened because it violates social norms?

Is society's tolerance for cursing increasing? Is that a good thing?

7 comments:

  1. I would say that given the time and where she is, I would say that Frankie’s use of language is offensive in the club and around such people. However, I also agree that she has definitely earned the right to use such language because of the horrifying experiences that had transpired overseas in Vietnam. Personally, I believe that there is a time and place to curse and a club is not the place for it. I only curse around people I am close and comfortable with, when I’m in pain, or when I’m frustrated. Some curse words can be seen as a mild form of violence indeed, and society’s tolerance for cursing is most certainly increasing. I believe that it’s not a good thing because I’ve heard words that shouldn’t have ever left an 11 year old child’s mouth. Thank you for your time! -Zeeva Skidmore-Beaney

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  2. I agree with Dr. Boren and Frankie's mother that Frankie's use of cursing is considered offensive. Additionally, the time, setting, and context support the idea that her use of language is inappropriate. Generally, the use of offensive language is frowned upon in public. Frankie's use of language is inappropriate in a public space.

    I also believe she has earned the right to use such language because of the traumatic experiences she has endured. However, just because she has the right does not mean she should use the right. Cursing is a very common occurrence throughout everyday life. Many use poor language for a variety of reasons whether to express emotion or as a coping method. I believe it is important to avoid cursing. Cursing has no positive effects and brings violence.

    Society's tolerance for cursing has increased significantly. The number of people cursing has increased a large amount and children are cursing more frequently. I believe the increase in tolerance regarding cursing is not a good thing and should be decreased.

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    1. I think I mostly agree with you, except on your 2nd point.

      For the first, I agree its offensive from a perspective of looking it as a cultural situation - where she's in a country club and using coarse language. But with friends, perhaps, the language could be a little more free.

      2nd Question: I agree that she has earned the right. But I disagree that she shouldn't use it. But I understand that you meant, like, in the middle of public. I think the way she might use cursing in a more private and therapeutic manner as to relate her experiences to a psychiatrist or something could be very beneficial. Sometimes profanities are warranted, and Vietnam warrants that. But, again, I understood what you meant!

      Question 3: I agree. Although I think profane language can help describe someone's reality, people, I think, should be able to use more than it.

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  3. Question 1: I think Frankie's use of curse words is offensive, especially in a public setting. I think back then it was a lot less common for women to use such language at all so it's almost like Frankie's cursing is both disrespectful and it breaks social norms. I do think she has earned the right to speak the way she does but she shouldn't speak that way in a public place.

    Question 2: I think cursing is a personal choice. I don't necessarily think it is important to avoid cursing entirely. I think it is important to know when it is ok and when you shouldn't curse.

    Question 3: I don't think cursing can be considered violence by itself. If someone is cursing and yelling then yes, it could be considered violence. However, someone cursing casually in conversation is much better than someone verbally abusing someone else without using curse words.

    Question 4: I do think society's tolerance for cursing is increasing. I do not believe it is a good thing. My little brother is eleven and he has friends who curse worse than any of my friends. We just didn't do that when we were young and I think it's because our parents wouldn't tolerate it.

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  4. I agree Frankie’s use of language is offensive. I understand she is frustrated with how she is being treated and that is valid considering how much information the government is keeping from the country. That still does not give her the right to curse others who do not understand how much she has dealt with or how bad the war really is.

    I think cursing is a personal choice and it is up to you to decide if you believe it is right or wrong. We are not directly taught to curse in our society, but it tends to be picked up on as we grow older and are more exposed to it. Choosing to curse or not can also be based on a person's religion as well.

    I think cursing can be considered violent because they are more vulgar words that are not one hundred percent accepted in society, but I also think it depends on how the curse word is delivered. If it is spoken by someone who is using it as humor, then it may not be as offensive although it can still make others uncomfortable because not everyone believes cursing is healthy. It also depends on if the person speaking and being spoken to are male or female. If they are both male, then it may be less offensive because back then typically only males cursed and not in the presence of a lady.

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  5. Given the time and the context, would you agree that Frankie's use of language is offensive? Yes I would agree that her use of language is offensive. Even though her emotions are high there is a proper way to deal with your feelings without being disrespectful to those around you.

    Or has she earned the right to use strong, adult language because of the harrowing experiences she has endured and her visceral reactions to those experiences?
    She is allowed to use strong language but there is a time and a place where it is acceptable.

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  6. Frankie's cursing is understandable in the sense that what she went though. For years that is the only was of communicating she had. It is a habit she can break. Curse words are only offensive to people who find it offensive. While I think it should not be said too loud in public or said to strangers, it is important to realize that frankie has gone though a traumatic experience and her brain is forever changed by the war. Imagine you go to a different country and any word that starts with the letter "T" was seen a offensive. How difficult would it be to change how you speak? I think in time she would change her vocabulary.

    To me, curse words are not offensive because they only have power if you give it power. Even though i don't find it offensive, i believe that it is up to society to dictate what can be said in public places. If society does not want certain words being said, then it should not be said.

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